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I have been married for 35 years and I have seen my wife have four orgasms in that time. The first one was on our 25th anniversary vacation. She says she has very little desire for sex. But we make love once or twice a week and she says she enjoys it to a degree (the touching, skin-on-skin, closeness, cuddling, etc.).
We have had ups and downs in the relationship but overall do pretty well together. We have seen counselors to keep the relationship healthy and we have talked about her lack of desire and lack of orgasms. The conclusion is that she just has a low libido and is “wired” with a low sex drive. That’s just how she is, physically and personality-wise, so I am trying to accept that (as one might accept a physical disability in a partner).
Still, there are some paths we have not explored thoroughly. To get to the point, what is a "normal" clitoris? I know where it is supposed to be, but will an aroused woman have a little button or bump or something external that a man can feel there (with finger or tongue or whatever)? Because I have never felt anything more than a slight swelling at the top of my wife's genitals. I suspect that may a contributor to her lack of responsiveness.
I have only been intimate with my wife, so I have nothing to use as a comparison. But when I read erotica: “He rolled my swollen clit between his fingers” or self help books (Satisfaction, K. Cattrall & M. Levinson): “The clitoris responds quickly when his tongue draws circles on its surface.”
Surface? Circles? Swollen? Sounds like their should be a little button or nub or something. In all my years of going down there, there is nothing “sticking out” or swollen or anything but concave cleft between her labia minor. My wife says she can feel her clit, but I certainly cannot. I have heard there are medical conditions where the clit never "descends" or stays under the clitoral hood. She could have a general sensation there but nothing I can detect externally. How common is that?
She is also very sensitive in that area. When I rub it to try to stimulate her, after a minute or so, she pushes me away, complaining I am “rubbing her raw,” even if we are using a lot of lubricant. I have talked to her about this over the years, and although I try to be very gentle about it, it's a difficult subject to discuss, as she takes it as me criticizing her, or saying something is wrong with her. Well, four orgasms in 35 years, it sounds like something is not right. But she says she has asked her OBGYN and she says she's "normal" physically.
I just wonder if this could be related to her difficulty in enjoying sex.
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Dr.
Andrea: First of all, thank you for asking! It shows you are willing
to find new information to be more aware of what's going on and try
to change a situation that isn't as fulfilling as it could be. Kudos.
I
have to say I have several questions before I answer as best I can
with limited information- it's odd to do it over the internet and not
in person so I can see the expressions/body language/energy of both
people.
That
said, here is my response:
It's
probably not her anatomy. Everyone's clitoris is different- and the
thing is, it's a tiny area with a fantastically dense amount of nerve
endings, and since she's 'super sensitive in that area,' you have
noticed 'swelling,' and there's no history of female circumcision
(RIGHT?!?), she's likely perfect. Most don't actually 'pop out.' It's
not a penis, and there's a reason it was so 'mysterious' for much of
western medical history (cultural patriarchal issues aside for the
moment). When did you start trying to find her clitoris? Atrophy does
occur in women as they age, and the entire area can flatten and thin
out, especially if sex is infrequent (or unsatisfying- the positive
hormonal and anatomical response is important in keeping the tissue
functioning), so the anatomy may have changed slightly since you
married. Is she peri- during- or post-menopausal? Changing hormonal
balance could also affect her perception, lubrication, enjoyment, and
communication, depending on how it's going for her.
Point
two about anatomy- the female body has about a billion potential
erogenous zones. Let that sink in. Think about a billion. Yes, the
clitoris is a magical thing. But imagine this: take all the nerve
endings in your penis, all of them, and shrink the physical size of
skin area down to smaller than your pinky finger tip, then
poke/prod/itch/tap/lick only that tiny area for more than a second or
two = overwhelm and irritation = forget it. Especially if it's never
been successful before. Not fun so much.
So, what other areas are lovely and sensitive but perhaps with slightly less tendency for sensory overwhelm? There can be a 'g spot' of increased nerve ending density inside the vagina, about an inch up, midline, on the anterior (front) side, and some women can have orgasms solely from stimulating that area. Breasts, nipples, earlobes, lips and tongue, fingertips, hip bones, backs of knees and fronts of elbows, feet, neck... there are myriad. And each woman is different, so the most fun part is finding YOUR woman's favorite spots, and NOT overdoing it.
No
matter what area you decide to try, remember clearly these two
points:
a.
only stay in the same area as long as her body tells you it's a good
idea. Read her breath, amount of her own lubrication, her back
arching, overall body tension/relaxation, any little vocal noises
that might escape... Her body has a language that if you can read you
don't need to talk at all. Don't grade or analyze or ask for input if
you don't have to- if she's resigned and overthinking, it's likely
better to get her 'out of her mind' and back into her body by
exploring instead with BOTH of you reading her body's response.
b.
GENTLE. Especially in the area you think her clitoris might be. Touch
with only as much pressure as you'd put on a baby's eyeball to get an
eyelash out (clearly, never actually do that.)Then increase or decrease pressure, direction, speed (go
with achingly SLOW for a while) based on her response, which you
should note at every single moment. Like meditation.(See Nicole
Daedone's TED talk on Orgasmic Meditation, "Orgasm: The Cure For Hunger in the WesternWorld" below)
Since
it's not likely her anatomy, what else could it be? Some (most) women
take a longer time than you would think to become aroused (certainly
longer than most men, and certainly more likely after 35 years of NOT
being aroused much) so need more time and attention and usually
emotional or intellectual stimulation as well. That said... focusing
on the orgasm may be a big part of the issue in this case. I'd like
to suggest a few things. Start with a goal of not having an orgasm
yourself. Imagine just taking time to get to know her body better,
and to learn the language of her body, however quiet and hidden it
might seem to you. If she senses your disappointment (and
she does), she has likely learned this behavior pattern to avoid
disappointing you and also having to confront/be reminded of her
"inadequacy" in your eyes as she and you seem to perceive
it. Both of you could make use of learning the language of her body,
and perhaps starting with you appreciating small things the lessons
may go well! Do sweet physical things more
often than usual, for however long she enjoys, and try not to talk
about it, except perhaps to say you'd like to give her a massage and
don't want anything in return. Try a few of the other erogenous zones
and see if they seem pleasurable to her. When you come home, or
randomly, when you hug her, hold her longer than usual and maybe look
into her eyes and say "I love you" (and mean you love all
of her including her body) while holding onto her, kiss her neck
while you're doing dishes, whatever, be creative. Don't think you'll
have sex because of this, you're just learning the language. Think
'?donde esta el biblioteca?' during first year Spanish. This might
take 4 years like that did, but heck, what have you got to lose?
Also, she might say 'orgasms are overrated,' (which I suppose is true from a wider/esoteric perspective) but they're enjoyable for most, and I suspect if she had more she might feel less cynical about it... But if there are other issues with enjoying other aspects of life, this might be even deeper than just a translation issue... Let me know if this helps at all, I'd love to see you both having a totally fulfilling relationship!
Also, she might say 'orgasms are overrated,' (which I suppose is true from a wider/esoteric perspective) but they're enjoyable for most, and I suspect if she had more she might feel less cynical about it... But if there are other issues with enjoying other aspects of life, this might be even deeper than just a translation issue... Let me know if this helps at all, I'd love to see you both having a totally fulfilling relationship!
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Remember,
if you have a question for the good doctor, email it to
jillhamilton001@gmail.com. For more info on Dr. Andrea, check out her
web site.
(Note: Submitted questions may be edited for clarity. Also, I have no idea what's up with these mutant font sizes. I hope they didn't offend your aesthetic sensibilities.)
*My friend Heather knows I am a word prude and hate "clitoris" and, by association "clit," so I swear to god, she makes sure she works "clitoris" into every damn conversation we have. Which, as it turns out, is surprisingly easy.
7 comments:
There's a great book called "the 5 love languages". After reading it & discovering what my love languages are, I discovered than when certain things are done and I feel emotionally connected & desired, my long dormant libido has gone into overdrive. What a happy surprise at 54 to discover that I'm more sexual than ever!
Thanks Anonymous. You are the second person to mention that book to me. Which is clearly a sign that two people have mentioned it to me. Or maybe that I should read it. Unclear with the whole signs thing.
I recommend "The 5 Love Languages", as well. So make that three recommendations.
I'm loving this conversation...love talking about sex and am in the middle of a 30 day series on sexuality on my blog.
Not that you asked, but I'd recommend hubby getting Ian Kerner's book, She Comes First. I'd also suggest taking a look at DodsonandRoss.com for wife to read about about her clitoris and self-stimulation....if she's interested.
I don't have anything useful to contribute here, but I did want to say that your image choice for this post is absolutely brilliant.
What a strange story. Married 35 years, sex every week, only four or five orgasms for her, presumably every time for him. Seeing marriage counselors, and yet never a mention of vibrators. It's no crime not to have orgasms. My wife was about 40 when we married and had never had an orgasm, she said, although she loved sex, all the touching and cuddling. We bought a vibrator. Bingo. She had orgasms. She still can't get a Big O through digital, oral, or penile stimulation (my first wife had them that way quite easily). The vibrations maybe just aren't fast enough or intense enough for her, but a minute or two with a vibrator does it. Using a mechanical enhancement also is not a crime. You can walk to the store or you can drive. Point is, whatever works best for you. And yet, my wife is still quite happy to have sex without having an orgasm. An orgasm, she says, it is like the cherry on top of the sundae, but it is the ice cream that really satisfies her.
She doesn't like vibrators. Too weird. And I have that book. We're ok, it's just that something is missing. Been that way since day one. Long story, but thanks.
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